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 ரஸ்ஸல் க்மிர்கின், ஹீப்ரு பைபிளின் தோற்றம், குறிப்பாக கிரேக்க இலக்கியம் மற்றும் சிந்தனையில் இருந்து அதன் சாத்தியமான தாக்கங்கள் பற்றிய அவரது படைப்புகளுக்காக அறியப்பட்ட ஒரு ஆராய்ச்சியாளர் மற்றும் எழுத்தாளர் ஆவார். பெரோசஸ் மற்றும் ஜெனிசிஸ், மானெத்தோ மற்றும் எக்ஸோடஸ் மற்றும் பிளேட்டோ மற்றும் ஹீப்ரு பைபிளின் உருவாக்கம் போன்ற அவரது புத்தகங்கள், ஹீப்ரு பைபிளின் பகுதிகள் கிரேக்க மூலங்களால் தாக்கப்பட்டதாக வாதிடுகின்றன. பைபிளின் சில பகுதிகள், குறிப்பாக பெண்டாட்டிக் (முதல் ஐந்து புத்தகங்கள்) ஹெலனிஸ்டிக் காலத்தில் (கிமு 3 ஆம் நூற்றாண்டு) அலெக்ஸாண்டிரியாவில் இயற்றப்பட்டிருக்கலாம், அங்கு யூத மற்றும் கிரேக்க அறிவுசார் மரபுகள் குறுக்கிடக்கூடும் என்று க்மிர்கின் கூறுகிறார்.

க்மிர்கினின் பணி சர்ச்சைக்குரியது, ஏனெனில் இது பைபிளின் தோற்றம் பற்றிய பாரம்பரிய கருத்துக்களை சவால் செய்கிறது, பிளேட்டோவின் கருத்துக்கள் உட்பட கிரேக்க தத்துவ மற்றும் இலக்கிய கருத்துக்கள் அதன் உருவாக்கத்தில் கணிசமான தாக்கத்தை ஏற்படுத்தியது. இந்த கோட்பாடு மிகவும் வழக்கமான புலமைப்பரிசில் இருந்து புறப்படுகிறது, இது பொதுவாக முந்தைய பண்டைய அருகிலுள்ள கிழக்கு மற்றும் இஸ்ரேலிய சூழல்களுக்குள் பென்டேட்யூச்சின் தோற்றம் அமைந்துள்ளது.

 

ஷ்லோமோ சாண்ட் ஒரு இஸ்ரேலிய வரலாற்றாசிரியர் மற்றும் டெல் அவிவ் பல்கலைக்கழகத்தில் எமரிட்டஸ் பேராசிரியர் ஆவார், யூத மற்றும் இஸ்ரேலிய வரலாறு குறித்த அவரது விமர்சனப் படைப்புகளுக்கு பெயர் பெற்றவர். அவரது மிகவும் பிரபலமான புத்தகம், யூத மக்களின் கண்டுபிடிப்பு (2008), யூத அடையாளம், இனம் மற்றும் தேசியம் பற்றிய பாரம்பரிய கதைகளை கேள்விக்குள்ளாக்குகிறது. பல யூத சமூகங்கள் வட ஆப்பிரிக்கா, தெற்கு ஐரோப்பா மற்றும் மத்திய ஆசியா போன்ற இடங்களில் பண்டைய இஸ்ரேலியர்களின் வம்சாவளியைச் சேர்ந்தவர்கள் அல்லாமல், யூத அடையாளம் என்பது பெரும்பாலும் "கட்டமைக்கப்பட்ட" இனமாக புரிந்து கொள்ளப்படுகிறது என்று சாண்ட் வாதிடுகிறார்.

அவரது படைப்புகள், இஸ்ரேலின் தேசத்தின் கண்டுபிடிப்பு மற்றும் நான் யூதனாக இருப்பதை எவ்வாறு நிறுத்தினேன், தேசத்தைக் கட்டியெழுப்புவதில் வரலாற்றுக் கதைகளின் பங்கை ஆராய்ந்து, பண்டைய இஸ்ரேலில் இருந்து உடைக்கப்படாத வம்சாவளியைக் கொண்ட யூதர்களை ஒரு தனி இனக் குழுவாகப் பார்க்கும் சியோனிசக் கருத்துகளுக்கு சவால் விடுகின்றன. சாண்டின் சர்ச்சைக்குரிய முன்னோக்கு இஸ்ரேலிலும் சர்வதேச அளவிலும் விவாதத்தைத் தூண்டியுள்ளது, ஏனெனில் இது யூத வரலாற்று அடையாளத்தின் முக்கிய கோட்பாடுகளையும் நவீன யூத அரசின் அடிப்படையையும் கேள்விக்குள்ளாக்கியுள்ளது.



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The Invention of the Land of Israel -From Holy Land to Homeland -Shlomo Sand - Review and criticism

Shlomo Sand’s The Invention of the Land of Israel: From Holy Land to Homeland examines the historical and ideological construction of Israel as a "homeland" for the Jewish people. In this work, Sand challenges the conventional notion that modern-day Israel is the rightful, continuous homeland of the Jewish people, as widely accepted in Zionist ideology. He argues that this concept of a sacred, ancestral land was created and solidified only in recent centuries as a political construct to justify the establishment of a modern Jewish state.

Summary of Key Arguments

  1. Concept of the “Holy Land” vs. “Homeland”: Sand differentiates between the religious reverence of the land (as the "Holy Land") and the political idea of it as a homeland that belongs exclusively to the Jewish people. He argues that the ancient Israelites did not have the same modern nationalistic attachment to land and that the connection to a “homeland” was constructed much later, influenced heavily by European nationalism in the 19th and 20th centuries.

  2. Myth of Continuous Jewish Presence and Return: Sand questions the historical narrative of a continuous Jewish presence in Israel and the idea of an "exile" following the Roman destruction of Jerusalem in 70 CE. He suggests that many Jewish communities emerged through conversion and migration, often distant from the land of Israel, and that the narrative of return is more theological and symbolic than historical.

  3. Zionist Nationalism as a Modern Ideology: Sand views Zionism as a response to European anti-Semitism, adapting the nationalist movements in Europe by creating a myth of return to a lost homeland. He argues that Jewish national identity, like many others, was shaped by modern nationalist movements and thus was not an inherent aspect of Jewish life or culture prior to the 19th century.

Criticism and Reception

  1. Historical Accuracy and Use of Sources: Critics argue that Sand selectively uses sources to support his thesis, ignoring evidence that suggests a continuous, albeit small, Jewish presence in Israel over the centuries. Some scholars feel that Sand’s approach downplays Jewish historical ties to the land and oversimplifies complex historical events and identities. Others argue that he minimizes theological attachments that Jewish communities maintained, which have long held the land as sacred.

  2. Reductionist View of Jewish National Identity: Many critics feel Sand’s portrayal of Jewish identity as wholly constructed under modern nationalist influences is overly reductionist. They contend that Jewish identity historically included aspects of peoplehood and connection to the land, even if the modern notion of "nationhood" wasn’t present. For instance, Jewish prayers and customs have included references to the land of Israel for centuries.

  3. Reception in Israel and the Jewish Diaspora: The book sparked controversy, especially among Zionist thinkers and in Israeli academia, as it questions the ideological foundations of the Israeli state. Critics argue that Sand’s rejection of the Jewish claim to Israel overlooks the reality of contemporary Israeli identity and the complexities of Jewish historical narratives. However, some secular and post-Zionist groups found the book thought-provoking for its critique of nationalist myths.

  4. Political Implications: Many critiques focus on the book's political implications. By challenging Israel’s right to be called a historic homeland, Sand's work implicitly raises questions about Israel’s legitimacy as a Jewish state. Opponents argue that this undermines Jewish self-determination and could be exploited by those who deny Israel's right to exist. Others appreciate the book for encouraging a critical reexamination of nationalist narratives within Israel.

Contribution to Scholarship and Public Discourse

The Invention of the Land of Israel contributes to discussions on nationalism, identity, and the role of historical narratives in legitimizing political claims. While controversial, it encourages a rethinking of how land and nationhood are framed within Jewish and Zionist contexts. Sand’s work falls within a broader trend of revisionist Israeli history that seeks to demythologize foundational narratives, prompting both backlash and praise for its bold questioning of the historical underpinnings of the modern Jewish state.



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 Russell Gmirkin is a scholar known for his work on the relationship between ancient Greek philosophy and the formation of biblical texts, particularly the Genesis narrative in the Hebrew Bible. In his book "Plato and the Creation of the Hebrew Bible", Gmirkin proposes a controversial thesis suggesting that the texts of the Hebrew Bible, especially Genesis, were influenced by Greek philosophical ideas and specifically by Plato’s works. Here’s an overview of Gmirkin’s arguments, key ideas, and criticisms:

Key Arguments

  1. Influence of Plato: Gmirkin argues that the ideas presented in Plato’s dialogues, particularly the Timaeus, had a significant impact on the development of the biblical creation narrative in Genesis. He suggests that both texts address similar themes, such as creation, order, and the nature of the cosmos.

  2. Historical Context: He posits that the Hebrew Bible was composed during the Hellenistic period when Jewish scholars were exposed to Greek philosophy. Gmirkin claims that this cross-cultural exchange influenced the theological and cosmological ideas present in the biblical texts.

  3. Philosophical Themes: Gmirkin identifies philosophical themes in Genesis, such as the nature of God, creation ex nihilo (creation out of nothing), and the structure of the universe, which he argues mirror Platonic thought. He highlights how these themes align with the philosophical discussions in Plato’s works.

  4. Literary Parallels: He draws attention to specific literary and conceptual parallels between Plato's writings and the Genesis creation account. Gmirkin suggests that the authors of Genesis may have deliberately employed Platonic ideas to articulate their own theological positions.

  5. Redefining Authorship: By linking Genesis to Platonic philosophy, Gmirkin challenges traditional views on the authorship and dating of the Hebrew Bible. He suggests that the biblical texts were not solely the product of ancient Israelite tradition but were also shaped by contemporary philosophical currents.

Criticisms and Controversies

  1. Methodological Issues: Critics argue that Gmirkin’s methodology may lack rigor, particularly in how he establishes connections between Plato’s texts and Genesis. Some scholars question the validity of drawing direct parallels between two distinct cultural and literary traditions.

  2. Historical Anachronism: Some historians contend that Gmirkin’s thesis may be anachronistic, as it posits a direct influence of Greek philosophy on texts that were likely shaped by earlier Near Eastern literary and theological traditions. Critics argue that the Hebrew Bible reflects a complex tapestry of influences, not solely Greek.

  3. Debate on Influence: The degree to which Greek philosophy influenced Jewish thought during the Hellenistic period is a subject of ongoing scholarly debate. Some argue that while there were interactions between the two cultures, the core ideas of the Hebrew Bible remain rooted in earlier Near Eastern traditions.

  4. Alternative Explanations: Many scholars prefer to explain the similarities between Genesis and Platonic thought as part of a broader cultural milieu rather than direct influence. They argue that both traditions may have independently developed similar ideas in response to universal questions about existence and creation.

  5. Reception Among Biblical Scholars: Gmirkin’s ideas have generated interest and debate, but they are not universally accepted. Many biblical scholars continue to explore the complexities of biblical authorship and the influences on the Hebrew Bible from various cultural and philosophical traditions.

Conclusion

Russell Gmirkin’s "Plato and the Creation of the Hebrew Bible" presents a provocative thesis that explores the interplay between Greek philosophy and biblical texts, particularly Genesis. His arguments raise important questions about authorship, cultural exchange, and the development of religious thought. While his work has sparked considerable interest and debate, it remains a contentious contribution to the fields of biblical studies and the history of philosophy.

 



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 Shlomo Sand is an Israeli historian and professor known for his controversial views on nationalism, Jewish history, and the origins of the Jewish people. His works often intersect with the field of biblical minimalism, which critically examines the historical accuracy and cultural context of biblical texts. Here’s an overview of Sand’s contributions, particularly in relation to biblical minimalism:

Key Ideas of Shlomo Sand

  1. Critique of Jewish Nationalism: In his book "The Invention of the Jewish People," Sand challenges the conventional narratives surrounding Jewish identity and history. He argues that the Jewish people as a distinct ethnonational group were not as historically continuous as traditionally believed. This critique extends to the biblical narratives that have been used to construct Jewish identity.

  2. Historical Revisionism: Sand contends that many aspects of Jewish history, especially those related to the biblical accounts of ancient Israel, are products of later ideological constructions rather than accurate historical records. He suggests that the narratives found in the Hebrew Bible were written or revised to serve the political and social needs of later Jewish communities.

  3. Biblical Minimalism: Sand’s views align with the principles of biblical minimalism, which asserts that many biblical texts should not be treated as reliable historical documents. Biblical minimalists argue that the archaeological and textual evidence often contradicts the accounts in the Bible, particularly regarding the historical existence of figures like King David or events like the Exodus.

  4. Cultural Context: Sand emphasizes the need to understand biblical texts within their cultural and historical contexts, arguing that the narratives were influenced by surrounding cultures and ideologies. He believes that the stories in the Bible were shaped by the sociopolitical realities of the periods in which they were written.

  5. Reinterpretation of Historical Events: Sand reinterprets key historical events in Jewish history, suggesting that the narratives often serve to legitimize contemporary political aspirations rather than reflect factual history. For instance, he discusses the role of the Temple in Jerusalem and the concept of the Promised Land as central themes that have been used to justify modern political claims.

Criticisms and Controversies

  1. Reactions from Traditional Scholars: Sand's views have been met with resistance from traditional historians and scholars of Jewish studies who argue that his interpretations lack rigor and do not account for the broader historical context of Jewish continuity.

  2. Allegations of Political Bias: Critics argue that Sand’s scholarship may be influenced by his political views, particularly regarding Israeli nationalism and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Some suggest that his conclusions may reflect an agenda to delegitimize contemporary Jewish claims to land based on historical narratives.

  3. Debates on Historical Evidence: The minimalistic approach has been contentious within biblical scholarship. Supporters of biblical maximalism argue that there is sufficient historical evidence to support the existence of key biblical figures and events, challenging the minimalists' assertions.

  4. Broader Implications for Jewish Identity: Sand’s ideas have sparked discussions about the nature of Jewish identity and the relationship between history, memory, and nationalism. His works raise questions about how historical narratives shape contemporary political and cultural identities.

Conclusion

Shlomo Sand’s scholarship engages critically with the narratives found in the Hebrew Bible and their implications for Jewish identity and nationalism. His alignment with biblical minimalism contributes to ongoing debates about the historical reliability of biblical texts and the nature of Jewish history. While his ideas have generated significant interest and discussion, they also face substantial criticism, reflecting the complexities of studying history, identity, and culture in the context of contemporary political realities.



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